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	<title>Comments on: Two positive Ruby on Rails postings</title>
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		<title>By: Andrej Koelewijn</title>
		<link>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/01/02/two-positive-ruby-on-rails-postings/comment-page-1/#comment-622</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrej Koelewijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 13:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I haven&#039;t tried ruby yet. I read a bit about it, but there aren&#039;t many articles which clearly describe the differences between java and ruby. I really would like to see some code examples. I guess i&#039;ll have to try it. That last article that you link to is pretty good, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I haven&#8217;t tried ruby yet. I read a bit about it, but there aren&#8217;t many articles which clearly describe the differences between java and ruby. I really would like to see some code examples. I guess i&#8217;ll have to try it. That last article that you link to is pretty good, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hofte</title>
		<link>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/01/02/two-positive-ruby-on-rails-postings/comment-page-1/#comment-621</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hofte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are some links to discussions about RoR vs Java.

http://squizlog.keithpitty.org/archives/000235.html
http://tech.rufy.com/articles/2005/03/19/ruby-vs-java-a-matter-of-taste
http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=RailsHibernate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some links to discussions about RoR vs Java.</p>
<p><a href="http://squizlog.keithpitty.org/archives/000235.html" rel="nofollow">http://squizlog.keithpitty.org/archives/000235.html</a><br />
<a href="http://tech.rufy.com/articles/2005/03/19/ruby-vs-java-a-matter-of-taste" rel="nofollow">http://tech.rufy.com/articles/2005/03/19/ruby-vs-java-a-matter-of-taste</a><br />
<a href="http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=RailsHibernate" rel="nofollow">http://www.theserverside.com/articles/article.tss?l=RailsHibernate</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hofte</title>
		<link>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/01/02/two-positive-ruby-on-rails-postings/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hofte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, I see now that I made one big link..

I also forgot to react on your question about the difference between java and ruby..

Pfff.. that&#039;s difficult to tell. What I do know is that Ruby is more a real OO language, without any primitive types etc. Everything is an object...Without good programming experience with Ruby, it is not fair to compare both languages..I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, I see now that I made one big link..</p>
<p>I also forgot to react on your question about the difference between java and ruby..</p>
<p>Pfff.. that&#8217;s difficult to tell. What I do know is that Ruby is more a real OO language, without any primitive types etc. Everything is an object&#8230;Without good programming experience with Ruby, it is not fair to compare both languages..I think</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hofte</title>
		<link>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/01/02/two-positive-ruby-on-rails-postings/comment-page-1/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hofte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrej, 
I can&#039;t show some concrete examples by myself yet..not yet..I&#039;m still waiting to get my ordered book &quot;Agile web development with Rails&quot; from the Pragmatic programmer. So once it arrives I will start playing around and make myself more familiar with RoR. I also have to say, at the moment I amvalso busy with EJB3.0.

However, You can have a look at my earlier post about ruby on rails. It contains a nice link to a tutorial by O&#039;reilly. That tutorial was the trigger for me find out more about RoR. 

I think that the lack of configuration files, a lot of code generation (for example for your model layer), clear and optimized libraries and a lot of support will speed up the development process. However, I am curious about RoR will perform in building complex web application..it is still the new kid on the block..

Concluded, I have to admit that at the moment I also do not have a clear view on the capabillities/advantages of Ruby and Rails, but what I have seen in the tutorial and read on the weblogs by established people, it should be something to pay attention to.

Did you already play around with RoR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrej,<br />
I can&#8217;t show some concrete examples by myself yet..not yet..I&#8217;m still waiting to get my ordered book &#8220;Agile web development with Rails&#8221; from the Pragmatic programmer. So once it arrives I will start playing around and make myself more familiar with RoR. I also have to say, at the moment I amvalso busy with EJB3.0.</p>
<p>However, You can have a look at my earlier post about ruby on rails. It contains a nice link to a tutorial by O&#8217;reilly. That tutorial was the trigger for me find out more about RoR. </p>
<p>I think that the lack of configuration files, a lot of code generation (for example for your model layer), clear and optimized libraries and a lot of support will speed up the development process. However, I am curious about RoR will perform in building complex web application..it is still the new kid on the block..</p>
<p>Concluded, I have to admit that at the moment I also do not have a clear view on the capabillities/advantages of Ruby and Rails, but what I have seen in the tutorial and read on the weblogs by established people, it should be something to pay attention to.</p>
<p>Did you already play around with RoR?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrej Koelewijn</title>
		<link>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/01/02/two-positive-ruby-on-rails-postings/comment-page-1/#comment-618</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrej Koelewijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting posts, but not really helpful in understanding the difference between java and ruby, and the difference between JSF/EJB3/whatever and Ruby on Rails. Do you think that there&#039;s a big difference between java and ruby, and if so, what&#039;s the difference?

I would also like to understand how Ruby on Rails makes you more productive, and how this is different from other frameworks/code generation tools. Can you show me some examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting posts, but not really helpful in understanding the difference between java and ruby, and the difference between JSF/EJB3/whatever and Ruby on Rails. Do you think that there&#8217;s a big difference between java and ruby, and if so, what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
<p>I would also like to understand how Ruby on Rails makes you more productive, and how this is different from other frameworks/code generation tools. Can you show me some examples?</p>
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