Comments on: Oracle, Blogging Respect, Web 2.0, and Unbreakable Linux

By: Andrej Koelewijn

Andrej Koelewijn — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:57:55 +0000

Agreed, i’m also not the biggest fan of oracle support, or any commercial support for that matter. I just takes too long, too much hassle, and usually the result is that you have to wait till the next release. Currently we are having a problem running oracle software on vmware. Oracle’s support isn’t really helpful, they don’t really support running on vmware, and you have to reinstall everything without vmware to prove that it’s their problem. Not really an option. So whenever i’m having a problem, i try to find a workaround. This is usually faster than working through support.

But i’m not sure the problem lies with oracle. Doing support is hard, trying to guess what people have been doing, installing, changing, etc. To be able to give proper support, a support team really needs to be able to log into your machine and examine it.

Regarding the pieces, true, but jboss would have been yet another piece requiring integration. Not a solution for any technical problem.

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Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:46:20 +0000

[...] Blogger Robert Scoble suggests that it has to do with a lack of actual community building: “I can’t remember when they did what JD did — link out to people and join the conversation. I can’t remember getting an invite to any Oracle blogging event.” A commenter on that post and one blogger at IT-eye wonder if Oracle’s general lack of respect in this community is a function of its Unbreakable Linux offering. (Piss off Linux fans and piss off the geek community at large?) [...]

By: Jan

Jan — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 12:57:31 +0000

“I think customers who get all their support from oracle will gain from the fact that oracle support cannot finger point to redhat anymore when something doesn’t work.”

I don’t want to be negative here…, but Oracle support is really not that good when it comes to things that have nothing to do with Oracle RDBMS and/or Oracle Applications. Not sure whether delivering their own Linux distro is going change/help that…?

And sure, Oracle has ‘a lot of pieces’ – but they still have a lot of work to do create a sound integrated whole/suite from all of those (bought) pieces.

By: Andrej Koelewijn

Andrej Koelewijn — Mon, 30 Apr 2007 09:16:18 +0000

I don’t think Oracle had a lot to gain from acquiring JBoss. Technically they already have all of the pieces, there’s not much that JBoss has to offer. Maybe for their customers, or to avoid that redhat has the full appserver stack. Which ubuntu now also offers, by the way, by including glassfish in their distribution.

I think customers who get all their support from oracle will gain from the fact that oracle support cannot finger point to redhat anymore when something doesn’t work.

By: Jan

Jan — Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:16:17 +0000

To be honest, I think Oracle’s Linux distribution is a reaction to their failed attempt to acquire JBoss.

I don’t see any value in Oracle having its own distribution, whatsoever.