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	<title>Comments on: Waarom renderen we de view laag eigenlijk nog op de server?</title>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;JFall 2008...&lt;/strong&gt;

Last wednesday, I visited JFall 2008, the half yearly conference of the Dutch Java User Group, NLJUG. It was held in Spant!, a theatre in Bussum, The Netherlands. There were many interesting sessions and I thought it might be interesting to share my op...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>JFall 2008&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Last wednesday, I visited JFall 2008, the half yearly conference of the Dutch Java User Group, NLJUG. It was held in Spant!, a theatre in Bussum, The Netherlands. There were many interesting sessions and I thought it might be interesting to share my op&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Maybe for applications but not for websites...

Sorry - need to learn to read the entire reply, before posting a response. I think we&#039;re on the same page here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Maybe for applications but not for websites&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry &#8211; need to learn to read the entire reply, before posting a response. I think we&#8217;re on the same page here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I don’t think server generated html is going away. 
&gt;Maybe for applications but not for websites which need
&gt;to be indexable by google.

Sure - but I think these websites fall in the category &#039;websites&#039; (duh) - not &#039;applications&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I don’t think server generated html is going away.<br />
&gt;Maybe for applications but not for websites which need<br />
&gt;to be indexable by google.</p>
<p>Sure &#8211; but I think these websites fall in the category &#8216;websites&#8217; (duh) &#8211; not &#8216;applications&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Guus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrej,
after your presentation I asked you what the added value was of static html in your application model. Why not generate &quot;everything&quot;?

My question now is: can you give me the picture in your presentation describing you application architecture? Three blocks; &quot;static web server&quot;, &quot;SOA/WOA container&quot; and &quot;application&quot;. 

I have a feeling that this can be molded into something more generic, that people can use as a Reference Architecture to describe the &quot;seperation of concerns&quot; in Rich Internet Applications. 

Thanks!
Guus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrej,<br />
after your presentation I asked you what the added value was of static html in your application model. Why not generate &#8220;everything&#8221;?</p>
<p>My question now is: can you give me the picture in your presentation describing you application architecture? Three blocks; &#8220;static web server&#8221;, &#8220;SOA/WOA container&#8221; and &#8220;application&#8221;. </p>
<p>I have a feeling that this can be molded into something more generic, that people can use as a Reference Architecture to describe the &#8220;seperation of concerns&#8221; in Rich Internet Applications. </p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Guus</p>
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		<title>By: Andrej Koelewijn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrej Koelewijn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thx. I don&#039;t think server generated html is going away. Maybe for applications but not for websites which need to be indexable by google. Semantically correct html without javascript or flex is still the best SEO approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thx. I don&#8217;t think server generated html is going away. Maybe for applications but not for websites which need to be indexable by google. Semantically correct html without javascript or flex is still the best SEO approach.</p>
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		<title>By: jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job @JFall!

IMO whatever technology it&#039;ll be in the end - server side HTML generation to support internet/web applications is going the way of the &#039;DODO&#039;.

-J</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job @JFall!</p>
<p>IMO whatever technology it&#8217;ll be in the end &#8211; server side HTML generation to support internet/web applications is going the way of the &#8216;DODO&#8217;.</p>
<p>-J</p>
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